Surfaholic posted this in another section, i thought it should be here also





EXCELLENT TOOL, - That needed shouting

As you wrote "it does need some getting used to and not everything it alerts you to needs to be refused.", but it does what it says very well and it has also made checking So Much Easier

Everyone should be using this.

best wishes

Thom

It definitely makes life easier I wouldn't find half the stuff if it wasn't for being alerted to it, glad you found it useful
After christmas and boxing day will have to post something on customising it.
Merry Christmas everyone.

Hello Everyone!...

I am new here and am finding lots of interesting KOOL
Stuff! Thank you for that!

I am / have been a member of many good exchanges but this
is my first time as an owner. I am just setting up my
site...

May I ask... I am very aware there are many different types
of cheaters out there and do admit the thots of someone
cheating me sends shivers up my spine! Like you, I do work
very hard for every bit I do earn.

I just went to this site and did read the info:
http://www1.webng.com/mvent2/ Am I correct when I say 'If I
install this script and run it using FireFox, it will warn
me of any hidden iframes while viewing pages?'

On the other side of this, if I suspect a cheater -
unusually high impressions or what ever - can I open their
page in FireFox to check it?

Is there any other tools I should use? I am aware there are
some tools included with the te script.

Your help would be most appreciated!


Kindest Regards...

Shirley

Hi Shirley,

Yes... and no...

The iframe detector will only detect if the site you're verifying has any hidden iframes in it. Hidden iframes may be used for a variety of reasons, but often malicious code is hidden there and that's definitely not wanted. Sometimes it can be simple tracking info as well, but I've decided not to take a chance, any site that has hidden iframes, as detected by this tool, I reject from my site.

So, you'll be able to see if their site is using iframes, but not necessarily know for certain if it's a cheater...

I suggest downloading it and using it, and letting your members know that you've got it. Those who are using iframes for tracking will switch to different methods of tracking, or use different pages.

I've had members change sites without any qualms whatsoever...

Ray

I've noticed that the Walker Script is using iframes for banner displays on the main page to TE's. Will this tool flag that as well? If so, how can you tell the difference?

Sorry, just trying to understand before I download yet another program....

Nancy

Hi Nancy,

This tool detects *hidden* iframes, not those normally used on many sites.

For example, if you've got an iframe that is sized at height=0 and width=0, these will be detected.

It also seems to be detecting if you're using script tags to include the iframe as well, that is not including the iframe code, but calling it through the script tag.

That last bit may need some explaining, so here I'll try.

Normally pages will "include" additional code via include tags, these can be different depending on the language being coded:


which basically calls another file and includes it's content in the original file, so the source will show both the included code and the main page code. However, it is possible to include a php file using script tags, and this code isn't shown. So if your iframe code is in a php file called via a script tag, then the iframe is a "hidden iframe".

For example:


I hope that answers your question, basically, no, The Ventrino IFrames are not hidden, so they're not detected and not a problem. (ok, they may be detected, but as they're not hidden, the detector doesn't report on them!)

Ray

Hehehhe amazing what i find when i have the time to look about.

seems it limits the amount of sites u check though, tells me to go back to site and get a bulk detector but i can't find it lol.

_at_ sawhite:

Install the greasemonkey add-on into firefox before, then the iframe detector, otherwise i am not sure if that works.

I found the best way to edit the detector is to do the following and then it works much better, it may show you all the code and to view the site you need to do a back and cancel.

Right click on the GreaseMonkey icon in the status bar at the bottom of your browser window.

Select "Manage User Scripts". A window will pop up.

"Cheating Iframe Detector" appears in a list in the lefthand column of that window. Select it.

Click the Edit button at the bottom of that column. That should open a Notepad window.

Use Edit > Find to locate this text: var enableJutakyAnalysis = "yes";

Replace "yes" with "no".

Save the change and close Notepad.

Click Okay to close the Manage User Scripts window.